It fact this has really got ridiculous so if you could remove this whole thread that would be fine with me.
Your Brother
Keith Casarona
i have been on the phone the last to two weeks calling people i've known over the last forty years most of who are still jehovah's witnesses.
some of these people who didn't know i was "out" talked to me and some who knew i was "out" still talked to me.
some of the those people are even elders.. by book new boy will be dedicated to all the people who have killed themselves because of being a jehovah's witness or knowing others who were jehovah's witnesses.
It fact this has really got ridiculous so if you could remove this whole thread that would be fine with me.
Your Brother
Keith Casarona
i have been on the phone the last to two weeks calling people i've known over the last forty years most of who are still jehovah's witnesses.
some of these people who didn't know i was "out" talked to me and some who knew i was "out" still talked to me.
some of the those people are even elders.. by book new boy will be dedicated to all the people who have killed themselves because of being a jehovah's witness or knowing others who were jehovah's witnesses.
Everyone real names are used in the book.
The vast about of these people are dead. Some are still living and are in the old age home at Bethel.
I name the people in the stories (and on this site) because the stories were real events done by real people. They are not my prospective of events. I'm relaying the facts.
Of course there might law suits. I'm expecting them. Because of being raised as a witness and thus thinking Armageddon was coming any day made many bad financial decisions. Thus I have no assets. If they want to sue me get in line.
It's time for the truth about the truth.
On the other hand the one thing the society hates more then anything is publicity.
Yes a lot of research has gone into this book. I want to get it right. I have gathered a lot of information from this site as hundreds of other people have.
You have accused me of gather this information in an under handed way. I have talked many Jehovah's Witnesses and Non Jehovah's Witnesses. I have lied to none of them,
I'm not here to promote this book. I'm sorry if it has come off that way.
i have been on the phone the last to two weeks calling people i've known over the last forty years most of who are still jehovah's witnesses.
some of these people who didn't know i was "out" talked to me and some who knew i was "out" still talked to me.
some of the those people are even elders.. by book new boy will be dedicated to all the people who have killed themselves because of being a jehovah's witness or knowing others who were jehovah's witnesses.
poopie
I can't get permission from dead people and I will not use fake names
Back to what this thread was about.
Exelder
Do you know anyone who killed themselves while they were Jehovah' Witness?
I knew of 12
I don't need their names. By the way I don't need or what your name.
Its a yes or no question. Don't worry by answering the question no one will find out who you are.
I'm curious why you left the religion. Care to share.
Thank you for the counsel
Your Friend Keith Casarona
i have been on the phone the last to two weeks calling people i've known over the last forty years most of who are still jehovah's witnesses.
some of these people who didn't know i was "out" talked to me and some who knew i was "out" still talked to me.
some of the those people are even elders.. by book new boy will be dedicated to all the people who have killed themselves because of being a jehovah's witness or knowing others who were jehovah's witnesses.
Anger..... maybe the fact is this whole damn organization must come down! Will there be bodies? Yes
Are there bodies yes
it's a cancer. I'm alive but will soon be dead. Most of my life has been suck out of me. My family is dead my friends dead.
The bottom line is no one is going out of here alive.
So dance around all you want the bottom line is people are paying everyday.
The topic of this thread was SUICIDES....yet you are all worried about might happen to two elders wifes!!
I guess I'm taken crazy pills
i have been on the phone the last to two weeks calling people i've known over the last forty years most of who are still jehovah's witnesses.
some of these people who didn't know i was "out" talked to me and some who knew i was "out" still talked to me.
some of the those people are even elders.. by book new boy will be dedicated to all the people who have killed themselves because of being a jehovah's witness or knowing others who were jehovah's witnesses.
I guess I'm concerned about the dead and you are concerned about the living.
i have been on the phone the last to two weeks calling people i've known over the last forty years most of who are still jehovah's witnesses.
some of these people who didn't know i was "out" talked to me and some who knew i was "out" still talked to me.
some of the those people are even elders.. by book new boy will be dedicated to all the people who have killed themselves because of being a jehovah's witness or knowing others who were jehovah's witnesses.
"presumably because you didn't tell them?"
If they asked I told them.
OK guys let's back up here, Your not mad because my ex-elder friends talked to me.
Your mad because I talked to two elders wives. Both of whom knew who I was and my currant relationship with the organization and they had no problem talking to to me.
They could get in trouble you say.
OK lets play that out.
Lets just say for giggles that the WTB&T is monitoring this and other ex-Jw web sights.
They look at my post and contact the local body of elders.
The Elders call Sue or Elaine, by the way both these ladies have at least two three generations in the organization.
The phone call would go something like this.
Hello Elaine this is Big Brother
Yes
We got information that you were talking to a known apostate, Keith Casarona. Is this true?
No! Why would I do that?
OK thank you very much.
Oh by the way if he does call again don't talk to him.
OK but I have no idea what you are talking about.
By the way Steve I never asked for your name. And by the way just because you are paranoid doesn't mean they wont get you!
i have been on the phone the last to two weeks calling people i've known over the last forty years most of who are still jehovah's witnesses.
some of these people who didn't know i was "out" talked to me and some who knew i was "out" still talked to me.
some of the those people are even elders.. by book new boy will be dedicated to all the people who have killed themselves because of being a jehovah's witness or knowing others who were jehovah's witnesses.
"exposing the people who talked to you."
exposing them to what? What their wicked organization could do to them?
All these people I mentioned are "lifers" they all have been in for 60 to 70 years. Even if Jehovah himself shouted from the heavens to leave the organization they would believe it was Satan doing it and still follow the organization.
They are not going anywhere
PS No vendetta here just a time for the bull shit that has destroyed thousands of peoples lives to end.
i have been on the phone the last to two weeks calling people i've known over the last forty years most of who are still jehovah's witnesses.
some of these people who didn't know i was "out" talked to me and some who knew i was "out" still talked to me.
some of the those people are even elders.. by book new boy will be dedicated to all the people who have killed themselves because of being a jehovah's witness or knowing others who were jehovah's witnesses.
"inadvertently getting people in trouble"
I could get these people in trouble.... you mean the all my ex friends and the people who have shunned me. Yes you are right they might get into trouble.
However what can you do to sisters? Take their position of oversight away or not let they give a prayer in the KH anymore.
I'm not under their rules anyone. I'm not afraid of them anymore.
I'm sorry if they are.
My book is going to piss off eight million people. Let the chips fall were they may.
I hope the chips fall hard.
i have been on the phone the last to two weeks calling people i've known over the last forty years most of who are still jehovah's witnesses.
some of these people who didn't know i was "out" talked to me and some who knew i was "out" still talked to me.
some of the those people are even elders.. by book new boy will be dedicated to all the people who have killed themselves because of being a jehovah's witness or knowing others who were jehovah's witnesses.
I have been on the phone the last to two weeks calling people I've known over the last forty years most of who are still Jehovah's Witnesses. Some of these people who didn't know I was "out" talked to me and some who knew I was "out" still talked to me. Some of the those people are even elders.
By book New Boy will be dedicated to all the people who have killed themselves because of being a Jehovah's Witness or knowing others who were Jehovah's Witnesses.
In the dedication I going to list all the people I know (and not know) who have killed themselves.
So if you know anyone who was a JW and did kill themselves, I would happy to add their name to this list.
I don't need to know these people. However if there is a story that goes along with their name I'm sure we would be glad to hear it, even if you have relayed this story before.
I'm hoping to create sizable list.
It could be their only time they can speak out from the grave.
Thank you for your help
guilt is such a wonderful tool used by the jehovah’s witnesses.
one of the terms they love to use is the term “blood guilty.” they have actually used this term to guilt their members into doing more and more “house to house activity” yes, they have said on numerous occasions at their kingdom halls and other major gathering that a person “could be blood guilty” for not going out in the field service activity enough.
the reason is simple.
Guilt is such a wonderful tool used by the Jehovah’s Witnesses. One of the terms they love to use is the term “Blood Guilty.” They have actually used this term to guilt their members into doing more and more “house to house activity” Yes, they have said on numerous occasions at their Kingdom Halls and other major gathering that a person “could be blood guilty” for not going out in the field service activity enough.
The reason is simple. Because you decided to work in your garden and not go door to door on Saturday, Mr. Sinner never got a chance to hear the Jehovah’s Witness's message about the coming destruction of all the bad people. Because Mr. Sinner never heard this message, there is a high probability he doesn’t join that religion. Because he didn’t join the only true religion he is still a sinner. Jehovah has no choice but to kill off Mr. Sinner his wife and two small children at Armageddon.
So the Jehovah's Witness logic is that even though Mr. Sinner gets killed, YOU are now “Blood Guilty” because you never knocked on his door and now Jehovah holds you accountable for his death! So even though Jehovah did all the killing, you are the one that made him do it!
So you are accountable too and now you are now "blood guilty."
On the other hand all the elders that never did anything about reporting the pedophiles in their kingdom halls to the local authorities are not "blood guilty."
This makes perfect sense.
cool aid anyone?